Has anybody tried to remove "libpulse" and "libpulse-mainloop-glib0" from Ubuntu?
Even Ubuntu does not force Pulseaudio. You can always deinstall it completely and use pure ALSA or OSS.
Ever heard of Ubuntu Studio? It uses "jackd" as audio daemon.
The only PA-related packages you can't deinstall are "libpulse" and "libpulse-mainloop-glib0". When not using GNOME, you can even deinstall them.
Because Pulseaudio is installed in a basic installation, it does not mean you can't get rid of it.http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.p ... post129443
It is not difficult to remove "libpulse" from Arch Linux, and it should be not be very difficult to remove "libpulse" and "libpulse-mainloop-glib0" from Ubuntu. You may need to recompile a few packages. They might be added to "audiohacks PPA" https://launchpad.net/~dtl131/+archive/ppa
It makes sense to try, taking into account the arrival of Gnome 3 (with new PulseAudio problems) in the near future.The manual for recompilation of Ubuntu packages is here:http://www.4front-tech.com/forum/viewto ... =15#p13781
The release of GNOME 3
has been delayed once again, this time proposed for release in April 2011
Version 3.0 of the desktop environment is scheduled for release in April 2011. It was announced at the July 2008 GUADEC conference in Istanbul...
Though many of the planned changes are incremental, the desktop will receive a major overhaul with the GNOME Shell.
The release date had been set for September 2010, but in July the development team postponed the release to March 2011 and decided to release version 2.32 instead. In September the date was again postponed to April 2011. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME#Upcoming_release
It might be obvious that it will be much more difficult to remove PulseAudio from a new Ubuntu with Gnome 3. Imagine that some 50 packages (including all multimedia things: VLC, MPlayer, Firefox, etc.) depend on PulseAudio. You have to recompile them, if you want to get rid of PulseAudio.
You may also need to recompile GNOME to fix security problems. It turned out that Ubuntu is vulnerable to Windows-style exploitshttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/09 ... _problems/
see also: http://www.google.com/search?q=linux%20 ... 8&oe=UTF-8The convergence of Ubuntu and Windows
seems to be a natural outcome of collaboration http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_de_Icaza
There is also a kind of collaboration between Microsoft and SUSE Linux:
Microsoft and Novell Collaborate - FAQhttp://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/faq.htmlMicrosoft and Novell
will undertake work to make it easier for customers to manage mixed Windows and SUSE Linux Enterprise environments and to make it easier for customers to federate Microsoft Active Directory with Novell eDirectory.
Novell bought the SuSE brands and trademarks in 2003. Novell, one of the founding members of the Open Invention Network, decided to make the community an important part of their development process by opening widely the distribution development to outside contributors in 2005, creating the openSUSE distribution and the openSUSE Project. Novell employed over 500 developers working on SUSE in 2004.
The deal involves upfront payment of $348 million from Microsoft to Novell for patent cooperation and SLES subscription. Additionally, Microsoft will spend around $46 million yearly, over the next 5 years, for marketing and selling a combined SLES/Windows Server offering and related virtualization solutions, while Novell will pay at least $40 million yearly to Microsoft, in the same period.
In 1999, de Icaza, along with Nat Friedman, co-founded Helix Code, a GNOME-oriented free software company that employed a large number of other GNOME hackers. In 2001, Helix Code, later renamed Ximian, announced the Mono Project, to be led by de Icaza, with the goal to implement Microsoft's new .NET development platform on Linux and Unix-like platforms. In August 2003, Ximian was acquired by Novell, Inc. There, de Icaza is currently the Vice President of Developer Platform.
Miguel de Icaza, the creator of the GNOME, is a prominent advocate of Microsoft technologieshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_de_ ... chnologies
PulseAudio seems to a very advanced technology of the sort.GNOME + Novell + Microsoft → PulseAudio
GNOME is upstream. If PulseAudio is implemented in GNOME, it is automatically implemented in major Linux distros.
Do not ask questions like this: "Cui bono?" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cui_bono
The answer is obvious.The convergence of Linux and Windows might be the reason why Google forked the Linux kernelhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system
see also:http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/10 ... ion_egypt/http://www.whispersys.com/
If you need more facts, you may ask Richard Stallman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman
RMS: De Icaza Traitor to Free Software Community
posted by Thom Holwerda on Thu 24th Sep 2009 13:35 UTC, submitted by Hiev
The conversation shifted towards Microsoft's new Open Source labs
, and in response to a question by Owens, Stallman noted that Miguel de Icaza "is basically a traitor to the Free Software community". He also added that De Icaza is a Microsoft apologist, hence his involvement in the new Open Source labs does not inspire confidence.http://www.osnews.com/story/22225/RMS_D ... Community/
The convergence of Linux and Windows seems to mean assimilation (absorption, anabolism, digestion, etc.):
Presumably, PulseAudio was created in Microsoft's Open Source labs. http://www.osnews.com/story/22225/RMS_D ... Community/
Perhaps, Microsoft's Open Source labs also contributed into the development of ALSA, Xorg, Linux video drivers, etc., as well as into the hardening of Linux securityhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/09 ... _problems/http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/17 ... l_exploit/http://www.google.com/search?q=linux%20 ... 8&oe=UTF-8
The problems with PulseAudio, GNOME, ALSA drivers, video drivers, and buggy Xorg forced many Ubuntu users to switch to Arch Linux. Therefore, a special plan was designed for enforcing PulseAudio upon Arch Linux usershttp://old.nabble.com/PulseAudio-in--ex ... 14159.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/pulseaudio- ... 03718.html
If you are going to switch to Arch Linux, you should be prepared to combat the same problems. If you have already learned the art of hacking Ubuntu, you may feel very comfortable with Arch Linux. If you do not believe this, you may ask Russian kids.
The knowledge of how to recompile Ubuntu/Debian packages is a kind of secret esoteric knowledge
, largely because, perhaps, it may liberate Ubuntu users from the tyranny of Ubuntu developers. This knowledge does ensure the freedom of choice. It makes sense to learn the art, see: http://www.4front-tech.com/forum/viewto ... =15#p13781
Knowledge and only knowledge liberates, and absolute knowledge liberates absolutely.
Sir Isaiah Berlin
"Open source" is a kind of Communism, that is why the freedom of choice tends to be abolished. "Open source" is PulseAudio, that is why it is enforced in major Linux distros. You are always busy with PulseAudio. Linux is, in fact, a forced labor camp system. "FREEDOM IS SLAVERY" (Orwell, 1984), and Linux is a kind of GULAG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag
As Leon Trotsky put it so well: "Let the priests of all religious confessions tell of a paradise in the world beyond - we say we will create a true paradise for men on this earth". This was the promise of the Russian Communist Cargo Cult http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Trotsky
Instead of the promised paradise, the Russian got GULAG and the Great Terror http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Terror
The "open source" Cargo Cult ideology is also promising a kind of "true paradise for men on this earth". The result is likely to be the opposite of what is promised. The story of PulseAudio is the evident proof that "open source" is evil. This does not mean, however, that "closed source" is always good. What is really good is the freedom of choice.
It is in the nature of Cargo cults to deny the freedom of choice, because the ends justify the means. Forced labor camps are just a means to an end. The Russian GULAG was simply a rapid technique with which to "create a true paradise for men on this earth". Our brothers in Vanuatu also tried such magic techniques:
A new leader in the north of the island, Neloaig (Nelawihang), proclaimed himself John Frum, King of America and of Tanna. He organized an armed force which conscripted labour for the construction of an aerodrome which the Americans had told him to build for American Liberator planes bringing goods from John Frum's father. Those who refused to work would be bombed by planes. This pressed labour was resisted by a few natives who were wounded... The police reinforcements, with two U.S. officers, were quickly despatched to the John Frum airstrip. There they found 200 men at work, surrounded by others with guns.
Peter Worsley, The Trumpet Shall Sound: A Study of Cargo Cults in Melanesia, 1968.
These events took place in 1943 during the World War II. That is why Cargo aerodromes were prohibited by the colonial administration. Our brothers in Vanuatu are still waiting for the arrival of John Frum and his planes with the promised Cargo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmlYe2KS0-Y
“John promised you much cargo more than 60 years ago, and none has come,” I point out. “So why do you keep faith with him? Why do you still believe in him?”
Chief Isaac shoots me an amused look. “You Christians have been waiting 2,000 years for Jesus to return to earth,” he says, “and you haven’t given up hope.” http://www.smithsonianmag.com/people-places/john.html
For a similar reason, the "open source" developers keep improving PulseALSA. "IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH" (1984).The John Frum Cargo Cult continues to persist, because its ideology cannot be disproved.
According to Anthropology, Cargo cult usually occurs in three phases. In short, Cargo cult is a process of social change, it is a phenomenon of self-organization
, which can be studied through the help of computer simulation and non-linear modeling (see an example in the Attachment). Such non-linear models may allow to predict a new cycle of the cult.
The first phase of Cargo cult is enthusiasm, the second phase is disillusionment. Enthusiasm is followed by disillusionment simply because a certain sort of negative experience tends to accumulate, and also because the promised Cargo constantly fails to arrive. Since "the dramatic fervour of a cult cannot long be sustained", the cult activities are abandoned. During the second phase, that is, the phase of disillusionment, the number of true believers is likely to fall to zero, and, for an outside observer, the cult may seem to be going to disappear.
The number of Linux users is already so small that it is comparable with the number of the deaf:http://blogs.adobe.com/open/2011/06/foc ... lient.htmlhttp://research.gallaudet.edu/Demographics/deaf-US.php
This fact allows to assume that ALSA "musicians" are deaf to a certain extent. This assumption has already been proved with mathematical exactitude: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4423#p17789
Since the deaf might be perfectly content with PulseALSA, the "open source" Cargo cult may continue to persist.
The third phase of Cargo cult is a "hidden phase", since obvious ritual activities seem to be completely abandoned, and an outside observer may come to believe that the cult might have disappeared forever. This phase mostly involves intellectual activities. It is a long process of the creation of a new ideology, the so-called "myth-dream", which is capable of provoking a massive enthusiasm.